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Dead mice I can deal with, but not dead birds

  Author:  15228  Category:(Discussion) Created:(10/10/2008 7:50:00 AM)
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I'm a first time cat owner. The cat is going on about 7 months old, he's black and sleak with golden eyes, has a really long tail and I think he is going to be very large. It doesn't take much to get him purring.

However, Iams kitten food doesn't seem to be enough for him. I understand that cats are natural hunters, but I hate opening the garage door and seeing him munching on a bird. He eats the whole thing feathers and all which he later throws up.

Yesterday was one of those days when I opened the door and found him eating a wing...crunch-crunch-crunch. I chased him out of the garage. Later on when i went back out I found a dead mouse beside the chair I sit in when I'm in the garage petting him. I'm afraid the dog, who has taken up residence in the garage due to regression in house breaking, is becoming tramatized from the wholesale slaughter she is forced to witness (not really, but she's a gentle thing and is probably surprised to find food doesn't always come out of a bag).

My neighbors are bird lovers. They have bird baths and bird feeders around the house and yard. I've seen my cat sitting in the middle of their (until we moved in) very popular bird bath. I pretended NOT to see it of course, because I have no idea how to stop a cat from doing what comes naturally.

I've tried putting a bell on is collar but it somehow always comes off. I'm not sure what else I can do. I don't think he'd be happy being locked in the garage 24 hours a day.

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Date: 10/10/2008 7:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 33401    I find this kind of humorous knowing cats behavior :-P. I think all young cats go through the phase of killing little critters. My cat Chica goes out all the time doing I don't know or want to know what. I don't know of a way to keep them from killing little critters. I guess you have to wait it out? Love,  
Date: 10/10/2008 8:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 10245    maybe keep the garage door closed after you let him out in the morning? I know it' won't stop the hunting,but at least you won't have to deal with seeing him crunch on his prey.  
Date: 10/10/2008 8:06:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Farlo, I hope it is just a phase. I suppose I don't mind the killing of mice, but I feel bad for the birds.  
Date: 10/10/2008 8:08:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    mercury, that's a good idea...don't know why I didn't think of that. We have a cat door that can be opened and closed...I think I'll put the cover on after he goes out for the day unless it's really cold. He seems to only do this on bight sunny days.  
Date: 10/10/2008 8:12:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Sunday my daughter and some of the neighbor kids saw the cat with a bird in it's mouth...they were chasing the cat all over trying to get him to drop the bird..unfortuantly the bird was still alive and was half-heatedly flapping it's one wing that wasn't in the cats mouth. Yuck.  
Date: 10/10/2008 9:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 21903    Eeeew! Dead birds and mice! *shivers* and the crunching sound! Ick! Poor pup for having to witness the "slaughter" in the garage!! lol.  
Date: 10/10/2008 9:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    Ugh. I LOVE birds... -_- One time a cat came into my dad's house through the dog door and tried to take one of our cockatiels. I was NOT pleased. Is there any way you can supervise the cat when it's out at all..? My friend has 4 cats and they're all indoor cats. They all seem happy, I don't know.  
Date: 10/10/2008 10:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 16376    My mom's good friend had a similar problem with her cat. It is very difficult to break an outdoor cat from their outdoor habits. It probably would not be happy to be locked in the garage for 24 hours a day. I honestly don't know what to suggest for you to do. Perhaps on your next stop to tbe veterinarian you can ask them if there is anything that can be done to stop an outdoor cat from their hunting habits.  
Date: 10/10/2008 11:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 33401    My dogs use to bring deer heads over to my yard during hunting season. Because our next door neighbors were hunters, and they left body parts around. *cringe* >.< Love,  
Date: 10/10/2008 11:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 10657    Well, much like you have said it's natural behavior for a cat to be a predator and the leaving of the mice at your feet is just him saying I appreciate you enough to give you this most esteemed gift. It is hard to break an outside cat of thier outside behavior. And, I really don't have any great suggestions for you. If, it was scratching or something like that I could give suggestions all day long lol. I'm trying to remember how I broke my cat of this habit and when, I do I will come back to it lol.  
Date: 10/10/2008 12:15:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    I did see something about a cat bib, I'm not sure how or why it works, but apparently it must give birds and mice a warning that they are being stalked.  
Date: 10/10/2008 1:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    Overfeed him so he gets fat and lazy.  
Date: 10/10/2008 1:13:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    LOL, that's the easiest suggestion yet.  
Date: 10/10/2008 1:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 21435    "Natural born killers" You bet. I've seen a cat stockpile mice underneath the house until there were like twenty, or so. No way she could eat them all. They can't help it. Cats will be cats, Kelly.:) Write on...  
Date: 10/10/2008 4:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 64621    I am a dog and bird lover also and find it offensive when a cat stalks birds in my yard when I put food out to draw birds here! In our town there is a leash law for cats and dogs. Im sorry you got this cat and although it is nature i guess if you have a dog (a dog lover!) and like birds maybe give the cat away to someone who has other cats in a cat environment(house cats). The birds are innocent creatures and have no defense against a stalking cat. Karrie
Date: 10/10/2008 9:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 16865    Heeheehee... We had one cat that would eat the mouse EXCEPT for the butt and tail. Those he would bring to us and place them lovingly in the middle of the hallway so that we stepped on them in the night. I know he was sitting off to the side snickering! The other cat ate all of the mouse except the heads and she put them on the table for us... cuz y'know, humans eat there. *gag* I love cats. I miss all my cats.  
Date: 10/10/2008 11:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 63961    There is really nothing you can do about it. The only way to fully stop it is put him inside. We have older cats and they still do it, so it's not a phase. Cats are natural predators. If they live outside, they do what they do best. Hunt. So I would suggest if you don't want birds being killed, either put him in the house, or not have a cat. :)  
Date: 10/11/2008 12:59:00 AM  From Authorid: 63961    That came off really bad, I meant to say maybe you can find someone who would take him and not have so many birds around. But really, I've tried everything...they just can't be stopped. Unless you tape their little mouths shut lol Sorry about my grumpiness :)  
Date: 10/11/2008 9:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    I agree with Karrie. I understand that it's hard when it's already an outside cat, but if there's a leash law for dogs, there should be for cats as well. People should be allowed to attract birds to their house without a cat invading their territory and COMING THROUGH THE DOG DOOR TO STEAL BIRDS. ...Sorry lol  
Date: 10/11/2008 10:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    well I see your point, but the orginal sin is not mine. The cat was dumped at my parents house,...I never wanted a cat, never asked for a cat and we could find no one who wanted the cat so i ended up with a cat. It cannot come into my house because of a dog, so it's either the garage and the outside or the shelter. I'd say birds are about as plentiful as cats, so I guess it all comes down to what you love and have compassion for more. I hate to see a cat put down for lack of a home, I hate to see the cat kill birds...so i have to come up with a solution, keeping the cat in the garage 24 hours a day is no solution at all.  
Date: 10/11/2008 10:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 42945    You can't lock them up for 24hrs but I used to lock mine up at night...put a bell on his collar and make sure it is on strongly, and loud to frighten the birds away. Otherwise the neighbours might find ways of getting rid of your kitty kat, it happened to my Dad's cat and he suddenly disappeared after annoying neighbours birds in cages...it's hard I know because they are natural hunters and doing what comes natural to them...  
Date: 10/12/2008 8:50:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Zema, there is some kind of bib I ran across on a web site that is suppose to work. The cat can still climb trees and other things, but for some reason it alerts birds to the presence of the cat. I've worried a little about a neighbor doing something to him, one day he came home acting sick, nose and eyes streaming gunk and acting lethargic for a day...I wonder if he got into something someone put out??  
Date: 10/12/2008 8:51:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Oh, not to mention one night I accidently locked him out and a neighbor dumped him up the road! I don't think she realized the cat belonged to anyone because he somehow lost his collar.  
Date: 10/12/2008 9:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    Yeah, that bib thing is a good idea. You should be careful though, because you never know what someone will do to a cat if the cat tries to get one of their pet birds or something. =/ I don't even like to THINK of a cat being near my parakeet, Hermes. He's my best non-human friend.  

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